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Post by katie on Apr 13, 2015 6:53:16 GMT
So, did anyone watch?? I thought it was pretty lackluster, and I didn't wince as much as I feared I would, but it's still early. Oh, except for the part where Brienne and Pod are chilling out by the creek and see a small caravan roll by. Who's in the caravan? SANSA AND LITTLEFINGER!!! Ahhhhhh so close yet so far away!!! And one has to assume that they clattered past a dying (or dead?) Sandor at some point too. :-( Other than that, Sansa storyline opened with her, LF, and Bronze Yohn Royce watching Robin, umm, "training"? More like repeatedly getting knocked to the ground and whining. They were apparently at the Gates of the Moon, and why? Cuz LF intended to leave Robin there while he and Sansa go traipsing off to Winterfell, though he tells BYR that they're going back to the Fingers. Sansa spent the entire episode looking bored to tears. And check out this body language:  She couldn't get ANY farther away without actually not being in the bleachers anymore, lololol. Also:  Again, she's leaning slightly away, forcing him to lean further toward her. He holds the physical power over her, but she holds the psychological power over him. And that was pretty much it for that. The whole theory about Sansa's "traumatic scene" this season having something to do with Robin's death seems to be debunked; it appears unlikely we'll see very little of him at all for the rest of the season. Sure, why not.  Oh, and they showed the Maggy the Frog prophecy, but they left out the part about the valonqar, wtf?!? |
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Post by eyesofmist on Apr 13, 2015 11:48:23 GMT
They left out the Valonquar?  I can't see the point of telling the prophecy and avoiding that part. In that case it would be more logical to leave it out completely, don't you think? |
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Post by sillierthings on Apr 13, 2015 14:16:01 GMT
I wasn't going to watch it, but at literally 8:57, my husband buys HBONow so he can watch. I folded laundry and watched with half an eye/half an ear. The most amazing part? How boring it all was. I briefly laughed at Varys's quips, but it all lacked substance and/or made no sense at all. LOL to the Sansa/Petyr train just riding right by Brienne and Pod. I mean, what?? I'm dreading whatever they have in store for Sansa this season, but for now, it's just boring. And the shows version of Bronze Yohn Royce--no! Just no.
Also, Brienne was very mean to Pod. I kept thinking about how sweet and loyal they are to one another in the books. Brienne and Pod are one of my favorite platonic loves in the book, next to Stannis and Davos. To see her bitching at Pod and telling him to GTFO just made me sad.
I think Katie covered most of my frustrations in her recap (loved it!). They made Loras so shallow. I guess his love for Renly went about as far as an appreciation for his crown. And what the heck was the deal with Mance? I guess he was one of those surprise deaths.
Yes, I thought leaving out the Valonquar part of the prophecy was surprising, especially since they took the trouble to film the scene. I mean, why bother? Also, why is Maggy the Frog sexy? Why?
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Post by katie on Apr 13, 2015 14:55:18 GMT
Yes, I couldn't believe Brienne!!! Why so bitchy, B?? :-( I'd like to think it had something to do with killing the Hound, but apparently we're not talking about him anymore, so.....
I'll have to re-read that chapter where fake-Mance is burned, because I couldn't recall if he had the same little mini-speech to Stannis before burning or what; when he started screaming like a girl as the flames got closer, that seemed to indicate to me that he was "breaking character"... However, I read an article about Ciarin Hinds talking about D&D giving him "that call", which suggests that he really is gone for realsies, so no Rattleshirt switcheroo I guess. Theon's just gonna have to escape Winterfell by hisself! (Unless they send someone else in disguise... like Tormund, LOL!)
I read another article suggesting that the show is "combining" the Younger & More Beautiful Queen and the Valonqar prophecies based on Maggy's "vague" wording... and that Jaime will be BOTH! LMAO! No, actually, I just think D&D are more interested in setting up this petty rivalry between Cersei and Margaery as opposed to the immensely profound idea that Cersei's own twin and OTL will be the one to bring her down in the end. Sigh....
As for Loras, I think this is just symptomatic of how the show deals with the aftermath of deaths or separations in general. It's like, once someone is gone, nobody -- including those who actually loved/cared for them -- ever seem to think or speak about them ever again. When's the last time anyone has brought up Ned, or Cat, or Robb? When's the last time Jon has spoken about Bran or Arya? When's the last time Arya has thought or spoken of Gendry? Jon barely acknowledges Ygritte anymore. Then of course there's Loras and Renly, and obviously Sansa and Sandor. It's like, out of sight, out of mind, even though the memories of people long gone haunting those whom they impacted are a HUGE theme in the books.
EDIT: Okay, Robb WAS mentioned last night, but it was by Stannis, and Jon had basically zero reaction to it.
And Maggy is hot because this is D&D and they probably couldn't bear to sit through a casting session full of canon-appropriate old ladies. [eyeroll]
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