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Post by katie on May 26, 2015 19:09:32 GMT
According to a casting notice that was just released, GoT is looking for a "Priest, in his 40’s or 50’s. A gruff ex-soldier who found religion. Now a no-nonsense rural priest who ministers to the poor of the countryside. He’s salt-of-the-earth man who has weathered many battles." Sound familiar?
And there's no other reason to bring in Elder Bro without his trusty gravedigger, right?
I never thought they would go to the Quiet Isle, and this would seem to confirm that, as we see that he is on the move à la Septon Meribald. Where they actually end up, though, is the real question -- in the North (where Sansa is)? Or in the South (where Gregor is)?
Although, now that Cersei knows where Sansa is, it wouldn't be surprising if she sent Ser Robert Strong after her, and everyone would just magically end up in the same place anyway...
But maybe I am getting ahead of myself! LOL
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Post by sillierthings on May 26, 2015 19:49:48 GMT
Who knows what insanity they will come up with on the shows, but it does sound like Meribald/Elder Brother and we all know there is only one reason to include those guys. So, the Hound is likely to come back (as we all thought), but I swear, I can't feel excited about it except to know that if they do bring him back, it is even more likely that he will be very important in wrapping things up. Or it's Clegane Bowl. "Get Hype!"  Honestly, Cersei and Sansa are too important as foils for them to never encounter each other again. As late as AFFC (or was it ADWD? I forget), Cersei was raging about Sansa, wanting her to beg for the Stranger's kiss  . ahem. She already is Cersei. She already is. At any rate, I've kind of got the feeling that Sansa is going to be outed at the Vale, by Shadrack or someone. I don't know at what point she will encounter Sandor again, but she needs to at some point. Ser Robert Strong will be sent after Sansa by Cersei. Whether Cersei comes along or not, I cannot guess, but more and more I want that giant that Sansa slays to be Ser Robert Strong. This would make her the ULTIMATE hero for Sandor. She could avenge him, protect herself, protect their wee babby (yes, they must have a baby, and they need to get busy making that baby soon!). How do you like that fan fiction fantasy? Better than the garbage D & D cobble together. I think there is some literary evidence for it . |
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Post by katie on May 26, 2015 20:24:26 GMT
Ooooh I hadn't thought of the possibility of SANSA defeating UnGregor! How precious! I like it!!
Based on GRRM's cryptic comment about the Hound being dead and "Sansa" being dead too, it seems most likely that they will reunite while she is still Alayne, which I am totally fine with because I feel like Sandor needs to be the one to help her find Sansa again, just like she helped him find Sandor again. And if Sandor is indeed coming back on Season 6, then it would *seem* that Sandor will likely be re-emerging in TWoW. But really, who the hell knows.
I still say GRRM will release TWoW right before Season 6 starts.
Anyway, I think bringing Sandor back on the show will be a two-for-one-deal: he'll intercept UnGregor in his mission to off Sansa for Cersei, thereby giving the fanboys Cleganebowl and SanSans our long-awaited reunion. But if they have Sandor fully thrust into his newfound faith, then that would not only create some nice, cheesy, soapy drama, it'll also solve the age-gap issue between Sophie & RMC. They WANT TO but they CAN'T because VOWS. *cue angst!*
It would definitely give Sansa more to cry about, no? She FINALLY finds love but she can't be with him. Whomp-whoooomp.
I dunno if I see Sansa and Cersei meeting up again, but I was just recently thinking about Cersei's final appearance in the books thus far, after her Walk of Shame, in Kevan's POV chapter; I never bought this Brand New Kinder Gentler Cersei™ act for a second. Even though she was definitely humbled, I don't think she actually learned anything from her Walk... except how to play the game differently. That is, how to play it like SANSA. Isn't that deliciously ironic? All that time Cersei spent trying to "counsel" Sansa on how to play -- her weaponized vajay, making her subjects fear her, etc. -- and now Cersei has learned that Sansa's method was the best way to go about it all along. Ha!
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Post by sillierthings on May 27, 2015 14:07:09 GMT
Good catch! I had not ever thought of it like that, but what an excellent parallel. Cersei is starting to play the game like Sansa just as Sansa is starting to ramp up her skills of seduction. Of course, ever hopeful me thinks that Cersei will never be able to keep that up, and our Sansa will hopefully never sink to actually using the V for power.
Perfection. Yes, I am nodding enthusiastically. The Unkiss helps her keep the Sansa hidden beneath the persona of Alayne alive. I predict a real kiss from Sandor will wake up the sleeping maiden fully. Ah! Such a fairy tale!
Me. I know. He HAS to. You don't introduce the Gravedigger and kicking, ungelded stallions and have Sansa remember him in almost every single one of her chapters and have many, many other people bring him up in their narratives and have Brienne and Jaime's last conversation focus on the Hound having Sansa without planning to bring that character back. Sandor Clegane is important. I THINK I know why he's important, but I'll have to wait and see what ol' George tells us.
She's going to slay a giant in a castle made of snow. This could be Winterfell, but it could also be the Vale. When she is coming down from the mountain in the basket with Sweetrobin, she comments that it looks like a castle made of snow (paraphrasing, but it's there. I'll have to find it later). One of the stations is called Snow, and rather interesting to note, Sansa even comments that the structures below here (I'm presuming she's looking down on the Gates of the Moon and it's buildings, look like honeycomb.)
George has given us several contenders for giants--Sweetrobin's doll? No. Tyrion? Maybe, but I don't think so. He's not Sansa's friend or anything, but despite the forced marriage and boob grab, she doesn't particularly hate Tyrion--just Lannisters in general. Petyr? Maybe--but I still think he is bound for justice via Lady Stoneheart. All that obsession with Cat to have him never encounter Lady Stoneheart? Nah. I think he'll be swinging from a rope or maybe Stoneheart will give him a nice kiss.
That leaves Ser Robert Strong as the only giant around that Sansa could face off with. It works for me because the fair maid kills the monster that hurt Sandor. In addition, and I KNOW no one likes this theory, BUT I really, really want Ser Robert Strong's head to be Robb's head. If Ser Robert Strong does indeed have a head (and isn't some kind of headless monster), I want it to be Robb's head because the two older brothers of Sansa and Sandor coming together to make this abomination is kind of poetic to me.
Look, I know Sansa loves Robb. I know Robb wasn't evil, but I don't like Robb. I think he was foolish and arrogant AND I think he was VERY cavalier about his sisters, particularly Sansa. Robb's actions, in part, are why Catelyn goes against him to try to save her girls. If Gregor is the big, unambiguous baddie, Robb is the good guy who does really, really terrible things without even realizing it. So--not a popular opinion, I know, but why else was Robb's head sent to KL? There is a missing head folks. Those kinds of things tend to turn up in stories like this. Don't they?
Perfect sound effect! lol. Well, maybe. I could also see it just being really pathetic as he gives up his vows to take care of her. Or maybe D & D will go to that old fanfiction standby and have him be the sworn shield for her and her little Bolton rape baby (as people are speculating will happen). The idea of the Bolton baby scares me because I do think Sansa will have a child in the series. As far back as that proposal letter, Martin was intending for Sansa to have a child (Joff's in that case). I could see D & D taking that idea and making her have Ramsay's baby. I'm trying not to care though. The show is not the books, the show is not the books....deep breath.
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Post by katie on May 27, 2015 18:42:37 GMT
Gosh, I hope not. I think she's more clever than that. Which is, of course, the point! Even the night of the BoBW, mere hours after Cersei had told Sansa (a) she should use her V for power and (b) she will probably get raped, Sansa used a completely different course of action -- one way more suited to her natural gifts -- to subvert the Hound's freakout. I'd like to think she will stay true to this, that if she finds herself in a situation where her sexuality is being compromised, she will come up with another strategy that doesn't involve the Weaponized Vag™. Squeeeeeee. That's not just shippy nonsense, right? That's, like, a legit possibility?? SAY YES, SAY YES! Oh, there's no question about that, LOL. What I meant was, it looks as if GRRM will probably re-introduce Sandor in TWoW as opposed to waiting until ADoS. I hate to use the show as a litmus test for that, but there it is. Indeed, though I always assumed that Robb's head was actually the head they sent to Dorne? I'm not sure why Qyburn would need a whole new head for UnGregor, LOL. Ugh, I had the same thought. You know I agree that Sansa will have a baby, and once she became betrothed to Ramsay, I was like OH NO.... And it makes sense from D&D's perspective, because if Ramsay knocks up Sansa, then that baby will have a stronger claim on Winterfell than Roose & Walda's baby. In fact, that probably is exactly what went through Ramsay's mind when Sansa oh-so generously goaded him about his status in this week's episode. What better way to legitimize his claim than by knocking up the heir to Winterfell? Sorry, it suddenly got very cold in here, hold me.....  |
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Post by sillierthings on May 27, 2015 21:07:15 GMT
Not shippy nonsense at all! How does Sleeping Beauty awake? Via a kiss. What other reason IS there for the Unkiss? There are fairy tale elements all over her narrative.
I think it's deliberately vague, although the skull is described as larger than average. The flesh is gone and the bone polished, but I think Doran has some doubts, but again, it's big. Did Robb have a big head? Lol.
At any rate, in the story, we're told they chopped off Gregor's head to prove to the Dornish that the Mountain is truly dead. We are also told that Robb's head was chopped off and sent to King's Landing (I assume for a similar purpose). So, Sansa and Sansa both have their big brothers' heads chopped off and sent elsewhere. It may just be coincidence, but I don't think Martin has too many of those.
It could be a red herring, but with Qyburn pulling a Frankenstein, it makes sense to me that his "monster" is cobbled together from different parts. He is called "Robert," which is more evidence for me. We already saw Grey Wind's head sewed to Robb's body. It makes sense to me that Robb's head will be utilized in a similar way, especially since Martin made a point to show us where Gregor's head went. I mean, Ser Robert Strong MIGHT be headless, but it would be even more horrific to have him be made up of Sansa and Sandor's big brothers, both of whom, in their own ways, wronged their younger sibling. I dunno. Not that Robb is as bad as Gregor or anything like that.
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Post by katie on May 27, 2015 22:01:43 GMT
Ahhh very good points all! Yes, makes perfect sense, you have convinced me!
In that respect, then, if Sandor IS somehow responsible for Ser Robert's downfall, he might never even actually realize that it WAS Gregor all along. So, he wouldn't necessarily be doing it for "vengeance"; he'll be doing it for a more noble purpose but will unwittingly (and ironically) get the revenge he'd always sought but eventually let go of. Interesting!!!!
^^ Of course, that's book speculation. On the show, it'll probably be plain as day to everyone involved that Ser Robert is the Mountain.
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. ahem. She already is Cersei. She already is.