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Post by sillierthings on Mar 26, 2015 14:41:08 GMT
I am 100% sure that the Gravedigger is Sandor Clegane, but I sometimes doubt. However, I was looking through ADWD and in reading the Davos chapter, I realized that he's a "dead" man too. Fat Manderly killed someone in his stead to satisfy the Lannisters to get his son back, and now Davos is "dead" to the world and able to be used by Manderly for other purposes. Given all the other characters who are "dead" or "undead," it doesn't seem far-fetched at all that Sandor will return.
Davos Seaworth="Dead"
Gravedigger=Sandor Clegane/"Dead"
The Hound-"Undead"-living on w/ Lem Lemoncloak
Gregor Clegane = "Undead"/Ser Robert Strong
Bran Stark= "Dead" to everyone's knowledge
Rickon Stark = "Dead" to everyone's knowledge
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Post by katie on Mar 26, 2015 14:52:40 GMT
Gravedigger is 110% Sandor. But the question that keeps me up at night is whether or not he will return to the narrative. And that is the thing I don't find a whole lot of precedence for in the series so far, with the exceptions of Davos and Bran... But their mistaken deaths were cleared up within the same book. Sandor "died" way back in ASoS. There have been 2 books since then. But in those books (AFfC, mostly), he remains quite present in the text (I have the tabbed pages to prove it), as if GRRM is saying "Hey! Don't forget about this guy!"
Actually, check that, there is another example -- Cat Stark! If we're counting the "undead", then she would qualify too, right? (But, again, LSH emerged in the same book that Cat died.)
There is a precedence for characters disappearing for a while and then showing up again in a different guise only to be revealed as the person we knew before, i.e.: Ser Barristan.
So yeah, it's certainly not impossible for Sandor to return. He HAS to. He has too much unfinished business. He's too young and too fierce to spend the rest of his life as a monk. The Red God is not done with Sandor Clegane. ;-)
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Post by eyesofmist on Mar 26, 2015 15:56:19 GMT
And it wouldn't make sense from a narrative point of view that in a series with so many plotlines the author should dedicate so much buildup and characterization to a minor character like Sandor and a plotline whose only payoff would be a romance and then let it all freeze suspended without a resolution after so much foreshadiwing and subtle development. He wouldn't have Sansa thinking of Sandor in nearly every chapter or created a safe haven (the QI) for only one character's sake. Dear Ned was simply killed and so were Cat , Rob or Renly, so why not simply let the Hound die once his role with Arya was completed?
Besides, if GRRM did indeed decide to bother and create a special hiding place where Sandor would spend the rest of his life, why did he hide Sandor's identity under the gravedigger persona? Why not letting readers see Sandor helped by the EB and make it clear he would stay there in peace. Why making Brienne hear his story? What for? It doesn't make sense at all, unless his story isn't over and he still has a role to play in the future.
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